Episodes
The Cycle Every Couple Falls Into (and How to Break It)
We're talking relationships today, and Jan's bringing the wisdom she's collected from 30 years as a couples therapist (plus 36 years of her own marriage).
Jan shares bits of the toast she's given at both of her sons' rehearsal dinners: her four hard-won truths about what actually makes relationships work. Then we dig into Pia Mellody's three golden rules of interdependence, the ones Jan says could make her rich if she had a quarter for every time she needed to explain them to a couple.
The Life You Weren't Sold (But Might Actually Want) with Jodi Brown
This week we're talking with Jodi Brown, a life strategist who's spent decades living outside the path most of us were handed: get married, have kids, build a nest egg, retire comfortably. Jodi chose her own path that she’s loved. And now she spends her time helping women figure out what a full, connected life looks like when it doesn't follow that script, whether by choice or because divorce or widowhood rewrote the plan.
Mushrooms, MDMA, and Mental Health: Our Personal Stories
In this episode, we go a new direction that some people may feel uncomfortable with, but we feel is an important conversation. We talk about drugs. Specifically, psychedelics, and what they've meant for mental health, including our own.
We share our personal stories, dig into some research, and have the kind of conversation we probably should have had with someone years ago. This isn't a "just say no" episode, and it's not a "do whatever you want" episode either. It's a real, honest look at what these substances are, what they can do, and why intention matters more than most people realize.
A Dentist Walks Into Our Podcast with Dr. Zakary Yermolenko
We've all had a dental horror story or two, and after sharing ours in a recent episode, we figured it was time to bring in an actual expert. This week we're joined by Dr. Zakary Yermolenko, a general dentist, Army Reserve major, and owner of Vernon Valley Dentistry in New Jersey, who somehow also finds time to coach his five-year-old's soccer team.
Dr. Zak has a lot to say about what we're getting wrong, what we're finally getting right, and why "I don't have any pain" is not the green light we think it is. He also drops a few things we genuinely had never heard before, which, honestly, is exactly why we're here.
The Messy Reality of Leaving a Long-Term Relationship
This week we got into something we know almost everyone has struggled with: what it actually takes to walk away from a long-term relationship.
We both share our personal experiences of leaving long relationships, including the whys, the good and bad things, and the parts we felt less than proud of.
Mama Trauma with Stephanie Baker
In this episode, we're joined by Stephanie Baker, a licensed trauma counselor, Army veteran, and EMDR therapist who knows firsthand that birth doesn't always go according to plan. What started as a near-perfect pregnancy took a sharp turn, and what followed was a crash course in things nobody had prepared her for.
Jan also pulls back the curtain on her own birth story, one she rarely shares. Let's just say it involved more than one emergency, more than one surgery, and a phone call from her mother that was... a lot.
Open Wide: Horror Stories From the Chair
Teeth. The thing nobody warns you about until you're crying in the dental chair with half your face numb and a stranger drilling into your mouth for the third time that visit.
This episode is Jan and Patti getting brutally honest about their dental horror stories — the bad dentists, the botched procedures, the money spent, and the hard-won lessons that came out the other side. Spoiler: we both came out stronger (and way more committed to flossing).
Hip Replacements, Leukemia, and Learning to Advocate with Nicole Grose Ph.D
Nobody sat us down and said, "Hey, one day your hips might just stop working." And yet here we are.
In this episode, Jan and Patti are joined by the brilliant Nicole Grose, a retired professor, Gen X middle child, leukemia survivor, and now the proud owner of two brand-new hips. Nicole brings her background in anatomy and physiology (and a whole lot of hard-won personal experience) to a conversation that is equal parts eye-opening and deeply real.
The Joint Adventure: Hips, Knees, and Everything Nobody Told You
So Jan's basically building a new body one joint at a time, and we figured it was time to talk about it.
As of this recording, Jan is eight weeks out from her fourth joint replacement, a knee this time, and we got into all of it. The parts they don't put in the brochure. The stuff your surgeon forgets to mention. The real experience of living in a body that needs a little extra hardware to keep going.
Obesity, Eating Disorders & the Shame No One Names with Melinda J Watman
This week, Jan connected us with Melinda Watman, a woman who has lived inside the obesity and eating disorder world since she was two and a half years old, and who somehow turned that into a career that's literally changing how pharmaceutical companies and clinical trials treat patients. We had a feeling this conversation was going to be good. We had no idea.
Permission to Eat: Healing Disordered Eating
Today we’re talking about something so many women carry quietly: disordered eating and body image stuff. We get honest about our own histories (yep, both ends of the spectrum) and what actually helped us move toward peace—without shame, perfection, or “just try harder” nonsense.
The Grief Timeline: How Loss Shapes Us with Dr. Rick Butts
The conversation this week with our colleague and friend, Dr. Rick Butts, stopped us in our tracks—in the best way.
Rick walked us through his grief timeline, beginning with losing his grandmother at 7, his father at 10, and later his mother at 35. What unfolded was something we hadn’t quite thought about before: grief isn’t just an event… it’s a thread that runs through your entire life.
The Grief of Everything
In this episode, we talk about the many faces of grief—and how it's not just about death. From heartbreak and dementia to aging bodies and old friendships, this one’s for anyone who’s had to say goodbye to something (or someone) they loved.
A Stroke, a Tumor, and the Angel of Death with Ma Sherry Glaser
In this episode, we sit down with the wildly talented and utterly honest Ma Sherry Glaser—actress, playwright, author, and activist. Sherry shares her harrowing (and strangely funny) journey through a stroke, a cancer diagnosis, and a kidney tumor... all discovered after avoiding the medical system for decades.
So... We’re All Gonna Die, Right?
In this episode, we go there—into the deep, raw, and very real territory of death and dying. Sounds jolly, right? But seriously, it's the conversation no one prepared us for, and that’s exactly why we’re having it.
Safe Spaces, Real Stories: Kristy Dillon on Sexual Trauma
In this episode, we sat down with Kristy Dillon—therapist, survivor, and truth-teller—to talk about something that too many people still struggle to say out loud: sexual abuse.
This conversation is raw, honest, and full of the kind of wisdom that only comes from deep healing. If you've experienced abuse—or love someone who has—this episode is for you.
Breaking the Silence: Living Through and Beyond Sexual Abuse
In this episode, Patti shares her experience of childhood sexual abuse, what healing has looked like over the decades, and why it’s so important that we talk about the things that were buried under shame, silence, or secrecy for way too long.
Why Every Woman Needs to Get That Mammogram with Laura Williams
This week, we’re getting real about something that hits close to home.
We’re joined by Jan’s dear friend and fellow therapist Laura Williams, who bravely shares her journey through an unexpected breast cancer diagnosis. Stage zero—no symptoms, no lump, no family history. Just one routine mammogram that saved her life
From Baby Oil to Biopsies: Our Wake-Up Call on Skin Health
Today, we’re diving deep into skin health and cancer — not as experts, but through sharing experiences we’d like to help you avoid.
Breaking the Shame Around Anxiety with Susan Kay
In this episode, we’re talking with Susan Kay, a psychiatric nurse practitioner with over 40 years of experience treating anxiety, panic, and mood disorders.
Susan opens up about her own lifelong journey with anxiety—from childhood panic attacks to the hard-won wisdom that comes from facing fear head-on.